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New York Potatoes

Subject: Re: Saratoga Potatoes
From: Mary
Date: 10/20/2018 3:22 PM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com

On 10/20/2018 9:10 AM, Mary wrote:

Many years ago I had a recipe for potatoes sliced and simmered in milk/cream for a 
very long time.  (Hours).   The title  had Saratoga and mentioned  New York....
It was great however I cannot find the cookbook that it was in, I think it was one 
of the “old time recipe books”.   Does this sound familiar to you?

Thank you

Mary

Hello Mary,

Occasionally I get a recipe request with a description that just doesn't match up with anything that I know or or anything that I can find. This seems to be the case with your request.

The only potato recipes that I know of or that I found that are called "Saratoga potatoes" are recipes for potato chips and a U.S. Army recipe. Potato chips were originally called "Saratoga potatoes" or "Saratoga chips."  The U.S. Army recipe is an old one. See the first recipe below. Potatoes are diced and boiled, then fried, then mixed with parsley and onions and a quart of milk, then thickened with flour.  There is also something called "Syracuse Potatoes", which are whole potatoes boiled in salted water.  There might be a recipe associated with another city in New York or a restaurant in New York, but I could not find one that fit your description. Nothing that mentioned "New York."

When you say it was in "one of the 'old time recipe books,'" I'm not sure if you mean one of a series of cookbooks titled "Old Time Recipes" or if you mean it generally as just an old cookbook.

I tried dropping the Saratoga and New York references and just searched for a recipe that fit your description of "potatoes sliced and simmered in milk/cream for a very long time. (hours)." I suppose it might be a scalloped potatoes recipe, but simmering for hours doesn't seem right fot that dish. The closest recipe that I could find to your description is the "Countryside Creamed Potatoes" recipe below, but the potatoes are only simmered for 30 minutes, not hours. The only recipes that I can find in which the potatoes are simmered for hours are recipes for mashed potatoes or recipes in which the potatoes are mashed with cream added (creamed potatoes), or recipes for potato soup. You don't mention any mashing or anything about soup.

Mary, anytime you simmer sliced potatoes for hours, whether in milk, cream, or water, I think you are going to end up with something close to soup.  I did look for potato soup recipes that mentioned "Saratoga" or "New York", but I had no luck finding anything that seemed to fit. I need more information to make any sort of a connection.

Phaed

Saratoga Potatoes
from: "Recipes Used in the Cooking Schools, U.S. Army"
By United States Army

Dice potatoes raw, boil them until done, then drain
and set away and let cool. When cool fry in butter or
lard until nice and brown. Add parsley and onions,
1 quart rich milk. Thicken with 1/4 pound flour.
Season with salt and pepper and serve hot.
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Countryside Creamed Potatoes

2 tbsp. butter
3/4 c. heavy cream
3/4 c. milk
5 med. potatoes, peeled and thinly sliced
1/2 tsp. salt
1/8 tsp. black pepper

Melt butter in a medium-size heavy skillet. Add cream and milk. 
Heat, do not boil. Slip the potato slices into the hot cream, 
one at a time, until evenly distributed. The liquid should barely 
cover the potatoes. Season with half the salt and pepper. Simmer 
for 30 minutes. Turn the potatoes carefully. Season with remaining 
salt and pepper; simmer for 30 minutes more. Serves 4.
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Thank you for  checking on this for me.  I evidently have something 
mixed-up if you can't find it!  
I remember it was in a cookbook, I don't remember the name, but it 
was all very old recipes, and it gave a little history of each. 

Again thank  you very much! 

Mary


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