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Ted's Montana Grill Pickles

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lori 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:40 PM
  Subject: Ted's Montana Grill Pickles

I would love to have the recipe for the pickles they serve at 'Ted's Montana
Grill.  They are really different.  Sorry about the goof of not putting in my 
name on my last e mail.  Thanks, Lori

Hi Lori,

These pickles are of a type known as "half-sour pickles". I had no success looking for a recipe for the Ted's pickles. You see, Ted's Montana Grill does not make these pickles, they buy them. I found this e-mail on a message board. It's from a Ted's Montana Grill representative:

"Thanks so much for your e-mail. Unfortunately, we are unable to release the "Half Sour" pickle recipe as it is an old family secret recipe. However, I will tell you that Ted's Montana Grill purchases the pickles in 5 gallon buckets from United Pickle (company in the Bronx , NY). The contact person for United Pickles is Marvin Weishaus and he can be reached at (718) 933-6060."

More Contact info:

(718) 933-6060

Sunshine Fresh Pickles may also have sold these pickles to some Ted's locations:

It would do little good to have the recipe that United Pickle Company uses, because commercial pickle companies make pickles in 50 to 100 gallon batches using commercial ingredients. What you really want is a "copycat recipe" for making small quantities at home. Alas, I had no success finding one. I do have some "half sour" pickle recipes on my site that you can try. They're at:

Sour & Half-Sour Pickles


Dear Phaedrus,

Thank you for passing my information along to inquirers seeking half sour pickles similar to the 
ones I sell to Ted's Montana Grill. 

I did want to inform you that my correct email address is  The email is not a good way to get me.  Also, Sunshine Fresh is no longer in business. 

Thank you again.

Marvin Weishaus
United Pickle Products Corp.
4366 Park Avenue
Bronx, NY  10457
Just to let you and your readers know, Sunshine Fresh Pickles is still very much in business. 
The company no longer manufactures on the east cost. Sunshine Fresh Nevada LLC is located in 
North Las Vegas Nevada. 
Its that Half Sour Pickle that some of your readers looked for.They still manufacture kosher 
OU certified products and make the best Half Sour pickle in the world. Other pickle companies 
on the east coast claim they have a secret family recipe or they are the manufacturer for your 
favorite restaurant or they are still making Sunshine pickles recipe; and the claims goes on! 
The fact that people are still looking for that "Special" taste means they haven't yet found it. 
Be assured it is still being made and is the preferred pickle of the most pampered chefs in the 
desert and growing to areas beyond.
As for the recipe its as simple as 1, 2. 3. A little salt, a little spice, some fresh garlic 
and the freshest pickling cucumbers you can find. (Did you actually think I would give you the 
To contact Sunshine Fresh: 702-838-4698 Tim (Timmy) Santora is the General Manager and head 
"Pickle-ologist" for over 30 years. Enjoy!

Orange Knot Rolls

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:58 PM
  Subject: Orange Knot Rolls

  Dear Uncle Phaedrus
  Please find the recipe for Orange Knot Rolls in the Atlanta Cooks for Company paperback cookbook.
  Some of the ingredients are:
  orange juice....and orange rind.

  Thanks!  Pat

Hello Pat,

Sorry, I cannot find such a recipe that mentions "Atlanta Cooks for Company" cookbook. Below are a couple of others that might be similar.


  Orange  Bow-Knot  Rolls

  1 1/4 c. scalded milk
  1/3 c. sugar
  1/2 c. shortening
  1 tsp. salt
  1 cake or pkg. yeast
  2 well-beaten eggs
  1/4 c. orange juice
  2 tbsp. grated orange rind
  5 c. enriched flour

Combine milk, shortening, sugar, and salt.  Cool until lukewarm.  Soften yeast in this mixture. 
Add eggs, orange juice and peel.  Beat thoroughly.  Add flour.  Mix to soft dough.  Cover. 
Let stand 10 minutes.  Knead on lightly floured surface.  Place in greased bowl, cover with 
damp cloth.  Let rise in warm (80 degree) place until double, about 2 hours.  Punch down. 
Roll 1/2 inch thick, cut in strips 1/2 inch wide, 10 inches long; roll each strip lightly 
between palms of hands to smooth and shape.  Tie each in knot.  Arrange on greased baking 
sheet.  Cover.  Let rise until double.  Bake in hot 400 degree oven for 15 minutes.  Spread 
with powdered sugar icing, mixed with orange juice and grated rind and pour over warm rolls. 
  Orange  Bow  Knot  Rolls

  1 1/4 c. milk, scalded
  1/2 c. shortening
  1/3 c. sugar
  1 tsp. salt

Combine and cool to lukewarm.  Add 1 package yeast.  Add and beat thoroughly: 1/4 c. 
orange juice 5 c. flour Some grated orange peel   Cover and let stand 10 minutes.  Knead 
on floured board.  Place in greased bowl and let rise in warm place until doubled in size, 
about 2 hours.  Punch down and roll dough a half inch thick.  Cut into strips about 8 inches 
long and tie in 1 bow or knot.  Arrange on baking sheet; cover and let rise until doubled in 
size. Bake in 375 degree oven for about 15 minutes or less. 1 tsp. orange peel 1 c. powdered 
sugar. Blend all ingredients.  Spread as a topping. 
From: "Pat " 
Subject: Re: Orange Knot Rolls
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:03 PM

Thank you so much - I think this first one is the right one..The Atlanta
Cooks for Company was a Junior League cookbook from the 80's..You are a
wizard!  Many thanks/Pat


I had a search engine request for "tarrales. In searching for that, I found that there are two Italian cookies with the same or similar names. One is a hard cookie for dunking and the other is orange-flavored. There are recipes for the first kind on these pages, and the second kind below.

Tarrali 1

Tarrali 2


Taralli Cookie 

6 Cups of Flour
6 Eggs, 4 Egg Yolks
Pinch of Salt
6 Tablespoons of Butter
8 Tablespoons of Baking Powder

Add Orange Juice(and/or Lemon Juice) until you get a nice cookie dough texture.
Knead and Roll into little cookie balls and place on a baker's tray.
Bake at 350 degrees for 13:33.
Tarrale Icing

4 Egg Whites
Beat until stiff
Add Confectionery Sugar until you get a nice creamy-thick paste
Add a pinch of Orange Juice, and or Lemon Juice and/or Anisette
Coat the cookies!
Lay out to dry.

Add sprinkles for color.

Seafood Torte with Caviar

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Maria 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:40 AM
  Subject: seafood torte with caviar design on top

  Thank you for looking into this. I never imagined such a website existed.

  I have been looking for a recipe I found in a magazine about 20 years ago or so. I only 
made this recipe once and I can remember some of the ingredients but I have been unable to 
find a similar recipe on the Internet.

Here it goes:
  Multi layered seafood torte starting with minced shrimp - egg- mayo plus other ingredients 
on bottom layer, middle layer had chopped green onions but cant remember the rest, somewhere 
in there, there was crab meat and bacon bits, cream cheese, possibly some other type of cheese 
and finally topped with three diff types (colors) of caviar in pinwheel type of design (similar 
to romanoff caviar torte recipe shown on jar)

  I know this sounds very vague but I thought I would give it a try because it was the best 
thing that I have ever made but somehow I lost the recipe.
Thanks so much,

Hello Maria,

I wish that I could help, but I cannot locate a recipe fitting that description. Sorry.


Cheap Meals Cookbook

A whole cookbook of trying times tight budget recipes. Apparently this used to be a website. The website seems to be gone, but the cookbook can be downloaded as a *.pdf file:.

"The CheapMeals.Com Cookbook" by Steve Rhode & Mike Kidwell. A cookbook in *.pdf format

", cheap meals that will help you feed the family for less, and spend less time in the kitchen. Also... '25 Tips for Eating Cheaply'...."


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