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Juicy Cream Pie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Nancy 
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: pie my grandmother and mother made--juicy cream pie

Juicy Cream Pie
I'm hoping you can help me with this recipe.  My grandmother is dead, and my 
mom is in a nursing home with some short term memory loss--sometimes doesn't 
remember what a wonderful cook she was.  We grew up fighting over this wonderful 
pie with a liquid-y type filling.
The crust was homemade with some flour and butter sprinkled on the bottom. 
Mom swears that she used either whole milk, or maybe whole milk and a little 
bit of cream (they were farmers with milk cows in Missouri when she grew up). 
She says sugar, cinnamon and maybe a little bit of nutmeg and vanilla mixed 
into the milk, and nothing else.  No eggs.  After the pie bakes, you let it 
sit for as long as you can hold the kids off (in my family, about 20 minutes), 
then cut the crust into four pieces, put the pieces into four bowls, then either 
spoon or pour the filling over the crust.  The filling tastes kind of like custard, 
but is definitely liquid.  I can't begin to describe how wonderful that crust with 
the sugar-y filling soaking into it is.  I've tried to google the name of the pie, 
and definitely got a lot of porn sites, which didn't please me at all.  I also kept 
running into "buttermilk pie" and "sugar pie" which didn't look right at all, since 
it looks like the fillings "set up" for both of those.  A lot of my family on my mom's 
side came up from the south--Kentucky, Tennessee area, we think.
I read over this and it looks like not much helpful info.  I've been through all of 
my mom's cookbooks I can find--she thinks she baked this pie by memory, not recipe. 
Anyway, thanks for reading.

Hello Nancy,

See below for what I found.


Sugar  Cream  Pie

1 pt. cream
1 1/2 c. white sugar
1/4 c. flour
2 tbsp. cornstarch
1/2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. vanilla
2 tbsp. butter
Cinnamon or nutmeg as preferred

Combine flour and cornstarch.  Add sugar and salt.  Stir in cream. 
Use top of double boiler.  Cook over boiling water until slightly 
thickened.  Add vanilla.  Pour into unbaked 9-inch pie shell.  Dot 
top with butter.  Sprinkle with cinnamon or nutmeg.  Bake 10 minutes 
in preheated oven at 375 degrees.  Reduce heat to 350 degrees and bake 
an additional 20-30 minutes.  Serve at room temperature.  
Old  Fashioned  Cream  Pie

1 c. sugar (white)
1 c. brown sugar
2 tbsp. flour
1/4 tsp. salt
1 egg, beaten
1 tsp. vanilla
1 1/2 c. canned milk
1 pie shell, unbaked

Mix first four ingredients well.  Add egg, vanilla and milk.  Cover bottom 
of pie shell with butter.  Sprinkle with cinnamon and nutmeg.  Pour mixture 
in and bake at 400 degrees for 45 minutes.  
Milk  Pie

4 tbsp. flour
4 tbsp. sugar
1 1/2 c. reg. milk (not skim)
Dash of cinnamon and butter
1 (8 inch) unbaked pastry shell

Into unbaked shell, put the flour and sugar.  Mix together and spread over 
shell with fingers.  Cover with milk and sprinkle with cinnamon and dot with 
butter.  Bake in 400 degree oven for 45 minutes. 

Morrison's Photos

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Webster 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Morrisons

Hey Phaed!  I don't want a recipe (for the moment) but would like to know the 
address of the old Morrison's in downtown Mobile.  I have related stories to 
my children and grandchildren about how wonderful a restaurant it was back in 
the 40's and 50's, (I'm old!) the atmosphere, linens and tableware, etc., and 
how everyone in Mobile had lunch there!  Since the only one they've ever been 
exposed to is the one over at Springdale, I'd like them to have an idea what 
the "real" deal was.  Are there any pictures available?
Thanks so much.  
Barbara (grew up in Bayou La Batre - when it was a nice place!)
an old lady in south Mississippi

Hi Barbara,

I found pictures of Morrison's from the 40s & 50s on these sites:

Morrison's History & 1945 photo

Larger 1945 photo

Inside Morrisons - The Serving Line

northeast corner of St. Joseph and St. Michael streets in Mobile, AL, ca. 1925

Morrison's Cafeteria downtown on the corner of Jefferson and Romana Street; Also - the dining room

A Morrison's in Florida


Morrison's Mayonnaise

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ann 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:03 AM
Subject: info request re Morrison's Cafeteria mayonnaise

Dear Phaedrus,
What mayo did Morrison's Cafeteria use in their salads?
In your posting at the bottom of your page
there's a very helpful Morrison's Cafeteria letter from a chef. I'm trying 
to recreate Morrison's lettuce/tomato/cucumber salad, and the problem is 
I can't figure out what kind of mayonnaise they used.  Besides those
ingredients there was just some onion and salt and black pepper I think
Miracle Whip is wrong despite being the obvious southern choice, and 
Hellman's doesn't seem quite right.  In your posting on their tartar sauce 
it just says "real mayonnaise".  Did they make their own?


  Hi Ann,

  The individual from 2005 said that he worked in the store room, not that he was a chef. He does say that he mixed up the tartar sauce. I have not had any contact with him since 2005. I do have a friend who has been gracious enough to copy recipes from his copy of the Morrison's  recipe manual and send them to me as I requested them.  Also, I recently received a copy of a Morrison's recipe manual from another gracious individual.

Whenever you see "real mayonnaise", it means: "Not 'Miracle Whip' or any of it's imitators - Not 'salad dressing'".  

  I originally thought Morrison's would have used a proprietary mayonnaise, made for them by a subcontractor. Or, I would have guessed that they used one of the commercial institutional brands or perhaps "Bama" mayonnaise (because it's made in Alabama, where Morrison's was based) or "Hellman's" or even "Kraft's". Kraft's and Hellman's say "Real Mayonnaise" on their labels.

  However, I found that Morrison's appear to have made their own mayonnaise. The below recipe is from the Morrison's recipe book. It's for an institutional quantity - you'll have to cut it down to size. I'd use pasteurized liquid eggs for the Voltex.

  I checked the recipe manual that I have, Ann, but there is no recipe in it for salad with lettuce, tomatoes, and cucumbers. There is a "combination" that is just lettuce, tomatoes, and mayonnaise, but it has no cucumbers. There is a "cucumber mix salad" with cukes and tomatoes and bell pepper and onions, but it has no lettuce or mayo, just oil and vinegar dressing. The recipe for the "combination" below.



Morrison's Mayonnaise

7 oz  sugar
8 oz  salt
5 oz  dry mustard
3 lbs, 9 oz Voltex (this is liquid, and in this case, frozen eggs. Today you 
can buy pasteurized liquid eggs refrigerated.)
40 lbs  oil (5 gallons)
8 ounces vinegar
2 ounces lemon juice

NOTE: Better results are obtained by using oil that has been chilled to 36°F

Combine sugar, salt, and dry mustard. Add Voltex and start mixer. Add oil in 
a steady stream until all oil has been added. Before removing mayonnaise from 
machine, add vinegar and lemon juice and mix thoroughly.
(Makes 50 orders)

10 heads  Lettuce
3 lbs    Tomatoes
2 lbs    Mayonnaise

Use 1 1/2 lbs of tomatoes in the mix. 
Marinate  1 1/2 lbs tomatoes in mayonnaise to decorate the top.
From: "Annie B" 
To: "Phaedrus" 
Subject: Re:Morrison's Cafeteria mayonnaise
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:22 PM

Thank you so much!  I got the two salads has been some years ago. 
It was the mayo in the lettuce tomato salad that I was thinking of.  The mayo 
recipe has both vinegar and lemon, which is why my attempts at one or the other 
failed!  As I recall by the way the tomatoes were cut in small wedges, maybe 1/8's? 
I'm surprised at the relatively low tomato amount, but that too might be why mine 
didn't come out right.  Unfortunately it is probably having the fresh mayo that 
made it special. Thanks again....what a treasure you have in that recipe book!
ps tho I'm from upstate NY, we ate at Morrison's cafeteria in Dutch Square Mall 
in Columbia, South Carolina every time we visited my mother in law for many years 
starting in the early 70's.

Fried Cabbage

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Fried  Cabbage

1 head cabbage
2 tbsp. minced salt pork
2 tbsp. flour
1-2 tsp. vinegar
Salt & pepper

Chop cabbage into 1-1 1/2 inch strips.  Place cabbage in pot.  Cover with water 
and cook approximately 15 minutes until done.  Drain, saving about 1 cup of the 
water.  In large frying pan stir fry salt pork until browned.  Add flour and mix 
to a thin paste.  Stir in cabbage water and bring to soft boil, stirring constantly. 
Should be gravy textured.  Stir in cooked cabbage.  Stir in vinegar, a few drops 
at a time.  Salt and pepper to taste.
Fried  Cabbage

2-3 tbsp. bacon grease
1 med. head cabbage, shredded
1 lg. white onion, sliced thin
Fresh ground pepper to taste

Heat bacon grease in large skillet.  Add cabbage, onion, salt, and pepper; saute, 
stirring frequently until cabbage is partially cooked.  Turn heat to high.  Allow 
cabbage to cook until slightly scorched.  Serve with smoked sausage cut into serving 
bites.  Serves 4-6.


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For the Dough:
- 500g flour
- 250g unsalted butter chilled & diced
- 1 teaspoon lemon juice
- 1 teaspoon salt
- ice cold water
For the Filling *:
- 500g ricotta / fresh cheeselets
- 1 egg beaten
- salt and pepper

Dough Preparation :
Sieve the flour. Add the salt. Add the lemon juice and mix well. Add water 
gradually to make elastic dough. Knead until the dough is smooth and does 
not stick. The resulting dough should be very soft. Roll out the dough, making 
it twice as long as it is wide. Spread 1/3 of the butter chunks over the dough. 
Fold the lower third toward the top. Fold the upper third toward the bottom on 
top of the first fold, to end up with a three-layered rectangle. Now turn the 
folded dough 900 clockwise so that the left side is at the top. Flatten the 
pastry and roll out gently as before. Once again place more butter chunks, fold 
over the edges and flatten the pastry. Leave to set in a cool place 15 minutes ***. 
Repeat the rolling out, turning over, flattening and chilling of the pastry three 
more times. The pastry is then ready for use.

Filling Preparation:
Mash the ricotta. Add the egg and mix well. Add salt and pepper to taste.

Cut off pieces of the dough the size of a small disc. Flatten each discs gently 
to the desired pastry thickness. Put a tablespoon of the filling mixture into 
the centre of each disc. Turn two edges of each disc to seal giving a boat shape 
cheesecake. Bake in a preheated oven (220°C fan forced) for approximately 30 minutes 
till pastry is golden in colour.

* A variant of this savoury cheesecake is the pea cake where the ricotta, 
egg filling is replaced with mashed peas with curry seasoning.
** Store the dough covered with a damp cloth in the refrigerator. 

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