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Mop & Sop Sauce

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandy" 
To: phaedrus
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: Mop & Sop Sauce....

Mop& Sop Sauce...catsup, vinegar or oil listed first as 1 cup of.....

Hi Sandy,

This is the only one that I found.


Mop and Sop Sauce

1 1/2 cups cider vinegar
1 cup ketchup
1/2 teaspoon or more Tabasco Sauce
1 teaspoon or more chili powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/3 cup brown sugar
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce

Instructions: Combine all ingredients in a sauce pan and bring to a boil;
stir occasionally. Adjust seasonings.

Mop this sauce on grilled meat 10 minutes before it is fully cooked.

Reboil sauce and serve for sopping at the table

Peach Iced Tea

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna" 
To: phaedrus
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: Fresh Brewed ice tea

Can you please locate for me........the following recipe:
Fresh Brewed peach ice tea...........thanks so much....Abbagab

Hello Donna,

See below.


Peach Iced Tea

3 orange pekoe tea bags
4 cups cold water
5 (5-ounce) cans peach nectar (about 3 1/3 cups), chilled
1/4 cup chilled simple syrup or to taste

Simple syrup:
1 1/3 cups sugar
1 1/4 cups water

Peach slices for garnish

Place tea bags in a quart-size glass measure or heatproof bowl.
In a saucepan bring water just to a boil and pour over tea bags. Steep tea 5
minutes and strain through a sieve into a heatproof pitcher. Cool tea and
chill, covered, until cold, about 1 hour.

Stir in nectar and syrup. Serve tea over ice in tall glasses and garnish
with peach slices and basil sprigs.

To make simple syrup: In a saucepan bring sugar and water to a boil,
stirring, and boil until sugar is completely dissolved. Let syrup cool and
chill, covered. Syrup may be made 2 weeks ahead and chilled, covered.
Peach Iced Tea

3 12-oz cans of peach juice
2 quarts tea
1 cup sugar
1/4 cup lemon juice
Combine everything and chill. Serve over ice.
Peach Iced Tea

In a 1-1/2quart pan or tea kettle, over high heat, bring cold water to a
Pour over tea bags and cinnamon sticks in heat-proof pitcher or container;
stir briefly. Allow to steep for 4-5 minutes or until desired strength.
Strain tea into another container. Stir in sugar, lemon juice and peach
nectar; cool.
To serve, pour into ice-filled glasses. Garnish with lemon wedge or fresh
peach wedge if desired.
Makes about 6 servings
Preparation time: 15 minutes

Poem: The Grandmother

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ellen" 
To: phaedrus
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:38 AM
Subject: the grandmother

Dear Phaedrus,

I am looking for a poem from my youth that I used to read at my
Grandmother's house.  I am 51 years old and it was old then.  My
brother's and I have tried to find it with no success.  I believe it was
called "the grandmother"  but I could be mistaken.  This is what I
remember of it as a child of 5 or 6:

And Willy my eldest born you say is gone, Little Annie,
Ruddy and white and strong on his legs, he looked like a man.
And willy's wife has written
She never was overwise,
Never the wife for Willy.
He wouldn't take my advice.
For you see little Annie her father,
Was never the man to save,
Hadn't a head to manage,
And drank himself to his grave.

There's not much more that I remember except that it was several pages
long. Can you help with this decade long search?? Thank


Hello Ellen, Yes. The poem is indeed titled "The Grandmother". It is found in a collection called "Enoch Arden, and Other Poems" by Alfred (Lord) Tennyson.
You can get the full text of the poem here:

The Grandmother


From: Ellen
To: "Phaedrus" 
Subject: RE: the grandmother
Date: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:27 PM

Thank you so much!!  You are wonderful!  You brought a tear to my eye.
Many, many thanks.

Bacon Grease Cookies

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandy" 
To: phaedrus
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:47 AM
Subject: Depression Cookies.....

Depression Cookies.....from 1988 or 1989 in magazine, possibly Sunset, using
1/2 cup bacon drippings. Notation above recipe said the bacon drippings were
essential to unique flavor of the cookie. May have contained cornmeal as

Hi Sandy,

See below for what I found.


Molasses  Cookies

 Ingredients :
 3/4 c. bacon grease
 1 c. sugar
 1 egg
 2 1/4 c. flour
 1/4 tsp. salt
 2 tsp. baking soda
 1 tsp. ginger
 1 tsp. cinnamon
 1/4 tsp. cloves
 4 tbsp. molasses

 Preparation :
   Mix all ingredients together.  Shape into small balls.  Roll in
 sugar.  Grease baking sheet very lightly and bake at 275 degrees
 about 15 minutes.
 Depression Era Oatmeal  Cookies

 Ingredients :
 1 c. raisins, boiled and cooled (save juice)
 2 eggs
 2 c. flour
 1 tsp. baking soda
 1 c. sugar
 1 c. bacon grease
 5 tbsp. raisin juice
 2 c. oatmeal
 1/8 tsp. cloves

 Preparation :
    Mix and drop by teaspoonful on ungreased cookie sheet and bake at
 350 degrees until light brown.
 Bacon  Grease  Cookies

 Ingredients :
 1 c. bacon grease or lard
 1 c. sugar
 1 egg, beaten
 4 tbsp. molasses
 2 c. flour
 1 tsp. salt
 2 tsp. soda
 1/2 tsp. ginger
 1/2 tsp. cloves
 1 tsp. cinnamon

 Preparation :
 Sift dry ingredients together.  Stir in bacon grease and egg. Roll in 
 balls. Roll balls in sugar.  Bake at 350 degrees for 10-12 minutes.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alex
To: phaedrus
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: Polenta

> Hi,
> I've ready that polenta has been made since the times of the Caesars, but
> the main ingredient seems to be a New World grain. Is polenta really that
> old and, if so, are there any recipes from before the days when "Columbus
> sailed the ocean blue"? Similarly, what was Italian food like in general
> before the tomato was introduced to Europe?
> Thanks,
> Alex

Hello Alex,

In Roman times, a dish called "puls" or "pulmentum" was made that was very similar to polenta. Of course it did not contain cornmeal. It was made with another grain called "spelt", which is related to wheat. This is why polenta is said to date back to Roman times. Corn and cornmeal did not come to Italy until the 16th century.

For links to resources about Italian food before Columbus, see:

Italian food before Columbus sailed



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