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From: Elize 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:07 AM
Subject: Recipe for Makhrota

Dear Phaedrus

My partner is Egyptian (he and his family immigrated to Australia in the early 70s) and is often talking about 
how delicious Makhrota is (a desert).  I have searched far and wide for a recipe but have not been able to find 
one in English.  There are Egyptian/Arabic YouTube websites/video clips with the word “Makhrota” in it but because 
I cannot understand or read Arabic it does not help me at all!  I have asked his family in Australia if they have 
a recipe but it appears to that the recipe as died when my partner’s grandmother passed away in 2007.

My partner has explained to me that Makhrota is made by rolling out “dough” very thinly, starting from one end 
rolling it into a “cigar” shape and then cutting the cigar into very thin rounds.  The dough strips that are 
created in this way are then steamed to cook it.  The cooked strips are eaten with milk and sugar as a desert.

I will greatly appreciate your help in finding this recipe and keeping it alive for the next generation of 
Egyptians in Australia.



Hello Elize,

I had no more success than you in finding a recipe for, or even a good description of, makhrota in English. This video, which I'm guessing is in Arabic, shows makhrota being made:


From that video, makhrota appear to be a kind of noodle. It’s difficult to tell from the video whether they are steamed or boiled. This dish does not appear to be particularly an Egyptian one, but it is a Middle Eastern recipe. I saw it mentioned on Iraqi sites, and rarely on Egyptian ones. If your partner is Egyptian, perhaps he or someone he knows can understand the language in the video and can write down the recipe for you from the video?

If not, then I suggest you write to one of these sites and request a recipe:
Food of Egypt

Mideast Food at

I’ll post this on my site.


Dreamsicle Cake

From: Lisa 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: dream cycle cake

I've heard you were the go to man to find lost recipes I had a recipe for a orange dream cycle cake made with melted 
orange sherbet and vanilla ice cream in the icing  
I've search all the web site I can find and thought you may know of somewhere else I may try any help would be greatly 
appreciated by my family 
HLPH Lisa 

Hi Lisa,

I’m confused. I don’t know what a “dream cycle cake” is. I know what a “dreamsicle cake” is, and I know what a “creamsicle cake" is, and I hope these are what you mean.

First let’s talk about where the name came from. The “sicle” part is after “popsicle”, a name coined in the 1920s for frozen confections on a stick and derived from “icicle”. A “creamsicle” is an ice cream bar on a stick that is vanilla ice cream in the middle and orange sherbet on the outside. A “dreamsicle” is the same thing, except that lower fat ice milk is used for the center.

There are dozens of cake recipes with both of these names that imitate the combination of orange and vanilla flavors. Usually, the cake is orange-flavored, and the frosting provides the vanilla flavor. For the orange cake, there are recipes that use orange juice or orange soda or melted orange sherbet or orange jello. For the vanilla frosting, many use whipped topping, but some use vanilla pudding or sour cream or cream cheese.

However, I did not find any recipe that called for melted orange sherbet and vanilla ice cream in the frosting, as tasty as that sounds.

I’ll post this on my site. One of my readers can probably help with this one.


Bill's BBQ Chocolate Pie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rene 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:47 AM
Subject: Bills Barbeque, Richmond Va

For many years in Richmond Va, Bills Barbeque served thousands of customers. 
Several years ago, after declining business, all the restaurants were 
closed. One of their top sellers was their chocolate pie. I'm looking for 
that recipe,, have you ever heard of it?

Sent from Rene's iPad

Hi Rene,

There are lots of raves about this icebox chocolate pie around the web, and there are numerous unfulfilled requests for the recipe that have been on message boards for years. I had no success with a recipe, a copycat recipe, or even a "tastes-like" recipe. Sorry.

Bill's BBQ has a Facebook Page here: Bill's Barbecue

I'll post this on the site in case a reader can help.


From: Jody 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 10:22 PM
Subject: Recipe for Bills Barbecue Chocolate Pie

Hi There:  
My name is Jody and I am looking for a recipe for the delicious Chocolate Pie that Bills Barbecue in Richmond Va had.  
They are out of business now (Sadly) and I would truly love to have this recipe or maybe some link you might know of 
where I might get it.       
Thanks much,  
Jody S 

Hi Jody,

Sorry, no success. I searched for this last year, and I searched again today. It doesn’t appear to be available.


Subject: Richmond Va’s Bill’s barbecue restaurant
From: Glenn
Date: 4/28/2019, 1:09 PM

On 4/28/2019 12:00 PM, Glenn wrote:
My name is Glenn and I am in search of their chocolate pie recipe. Can you help me ?
Thanks so much!!!

Hi Glenn,

Sorry, still no success with this recipe. There are many requests for this recipe on the web. No one has been able to get it.


Subject: Bill's BBQ chocolate pie
From: Shari
Date: 3/16/2020, 4:56 AM

On 3/15/2020 6:16 PM, Shari wrote:

Hi I am hoping to find the recipe for Richmond VA’s Bills Barbecue’s Chocolate pie?

Thank you

Hi Shari,

Your request is the fourth one that I have received for Bill's Barbecue Chocolate Pie since 2014. See: 6-23-2014

Every time I get a request for it I search again, but I'm afraid that this time is no different from past efforts. Sorry, still no success.

Probably the only way anyone is going to get this recipe is directly from the Richardson family, who were the owners of Bill's.


Subject: Bills Barbeque peak of flavor Strawberry Pie (and chocolate pie)
From: Edward
Date: 5/6/2020, 7:04 PM

On 5/6/2020 12:10 PM, Edward  wrote:

did not see the recipe, can you assist? thanks for all you do!

Hello Edward,

I get a lot of requests for Bill's BBQ chocolate pie, and every time I get one, I search anew for any recipes from Bill's BBQ.  The most recent was a couple of months ago, in March.

See the latest entry here:

As usual, I had no success searching for any of Bill's pie recipes. If anyone has these recipes, they are holding on to them tightly.


Subject: Bills Barbecue famous Strawberry Pie
From: Wilma
Date: 5/13/2020, 9:38 AM

On 5/13/2020 6:49 AM, Wilma wrote:

I have been looking for the recipe for Bills Barbecue famous Strawberry Pie... 
Can you help... 
Thanks Wilma.

Hello Wilma,

I get a lot of requests for Bill's BBQ chocolate pie, and lately I've had two for the strawberry pie. Every time I get such a request, I search anew for any recipes at all from Bill's BBQ. The most recent was a just a week ago.

See the previous requests that I have received here:

As usual, I had no success searching for any of Bill's pie recipes. Recipes for Bill's BBQ pies are just not available. If anyone has these recipes, they are holding on to them tightly.


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