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White Hots Hot Dogs

----- Original Message -----
From: Mary
To: phaedrus
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: white hots hot dogs

> Do you have a receipe for White Hots?  It is a pork hot dog that 
> I had in Rochester, New York.
> Thanks
> Mary

Hello Mary,

"White hots" is a trade name for a frankfurter sold by Zweigle food. They are different from regular pork, beef, and veal franks in that that don't contain nitrates, which is what gives frankfurters their normal pink or reddish color. They are also a bit spicier than the usual wiener.

You can buy them online at:

New York Deli



The thing that makes "white hots" unique is the frankfurters themselves. There's no recipe for "white hots hot dogs." If you mean that you want to buy casings and beef and pork and veal and make your own frankfurters, then I must say that I did not find such a recipe. The franks are apparently imported from Italy. See below for a sauce recipe that I found on a message board.

More info here: Smoking Meat forums, and I found a recipe that I'm posting below.


More Hot Dog, Chili Dog & Coney recipes

White Hot Franks 

25lb Pork Trim 
12.5lb Lean veal 
12.5 Lean Beef 
30lb Iced Water 
6lb Cracker Meal 
2lb Salt 
1lb Corn Syrup 
3oz White Pepper 

Grind beef & Veal through 1/8 plate 
Grind Pork through ¼ plate 
Place ingredients in chopper & chop until fine texture 
Stuff & link at 4inch intervals 
Steam 165 f 15 minutes or until internal 155f 
Cold shower 

Recipe from “The complete sausage book” by Jack Sleight 
Meat Sauce for Rochester White Hots

1/2 lb. ground beef
1 tablespoon minced onions, plus
extra for garnishing dogs
1/2 teaspoon paprika
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1/2 teaspoon chili powder
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon salt
dash of crushed thyme leaves
1 1/4 cups water

1. Place the beef, 1 tablespoon of the onions, the paprika, black pepper, 
chili powder, cayenne pepper, cinnamon, salt and thyme leaves in a small 
saucepan. Pour water over all, and mix well. Place saucepan over low heat, 
cover, and cook for 11/2 hours; the mixture should be very slowly simmering 
during that time.

2. Remove cover from saucepan. Simmer very slowly for another 11/2 hours. 
When the time is up, the meat sauce should be a thin gravy, a little watery, 
not dried out.
Makes enough for 8 hot dogs

Zucchini Relish

----- Original Message -----
From: Donna
To: phaedrus
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:28 PM
Subject: zuchinni relish

> do you have a receipe for zuchinni relish?

Hello Donna,

Try the one below.


Zucchini Relish

10 cups chopped zucchini
2 cups chopped onion
5 tablespoons canning salt
2 tablespoons cornstarch
3 sweet green peppers -- chopped
3 sweet red peppers -- chopped
1 small hot pepper -- chopped
1 tablespoon nutmeg
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
2 tablespoons celery seed
1 tablespoon turmeric
6 cups sugar -- *see note
2 1/2 cups cider vinegar

Place chopped zucchini and onions in a large pan. Sprinkle salt 
over them and let stand overnight. The next day, rinse these ingredients 
well. Stir in all the rest of the ingredients and cook for 30 minutes. 
Ladle mixture into prepared canning jars and process in canner as 
instructions direct. Makes about ten 8-ounce jelly jars.
*You may use 3 cups white sugar and 3 cups brown sugar for a darker relish.

Crescent Cookie Bars

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lou Ann 
  To: phaedrus
  Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:32 PM
  Subject: cookie bars

  My mother used to make cookie bars from a Pillsbury cookbook back 
  in the mid 70's.  I've tried my hardest to find the receipe but I 
  cannot, I need help.  I do know that it was made in cookie pan, a 
  can of crescent rolls spread in pan, possibly brown sugar, and  
  chocolate chips, and I think carmel ice cream topping.  
  I would appreciate your help. 

Hello Lou Ann,

The one I found doesn't call for caramel ice cream topping, but it seems right otherwise. You can always add the topping if you wish.


  Chocolate  Crescent  Bars

   Ingredients : 
   1 can Pillsbury crescent rolls
   2/3 c. brown sugar
   2/3 c. oleo
   1 c. chopped nuts
   1 (12 oz.) pkg. chocolate chips

   Preparation : 
      Spread crescent rolls on 10 x 15 inch pan.  Make sure all seams
   are sealed well. Bring sugar and oleo to boil until oleo is
   absorbed.  Spread on dough.  Sprinkle with nuts.  Bake 11-14 minutes
   at 375 degrees.  Spread with chocolate chips while cookies are hot.

Apple Breakfast Bread

----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy
To: phaedrus
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:05 AM
Subject: Apple Breakfast Bread

> We are looking for an 'Apple Breakfast Bread' recipe.  It has a
> crusty top, not from crumbs, but from something drizzled on top 
> about half way through baking.
> Thanks,
> Sandy 

Hello Sandy,

Below is the recipe that I find everywhere for "apple breakfast bread". Perhaps it's the cinnamon, sugar, and butter that make the crusty top?


Apple Breakfast Bread

2 c Flour
1 ts Salt
2 tb Brown sugar
3/4 c Milk
1 ts Cinnamon
2 tb Melted butter or butter substitute
3 Apples
4 ts Baking powder
4 tb Shortening
2 c Chopped raisins
1 Egg, well beaten
2 tb Brown sugar

Sift flour, measure, and sift with baking powder, salt, and sugar. 
Cut in shortening and add raisins. Add sufficient milk to which egg 
has been added to make a stiff dough. Mix thoroughly. Pour into 
well-oiled shallow pan. Brush dough with melted butter. Pare, quarter, 
and core apples and cut in thin slices. Arrange in rows in the dough, 
allowing edges to overlap. Brush apples with more melted butter and 
sprinkle with cinnamon and brown sugar which have been mixed together. 
Bake in moderate oven (400 degrees F) 20 minutes or until apples are 
tender. 9 servings.

School Cafeteria Recipes

----- Original Message -----
From: Sheila
To: phaedrus
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: cafeteria recipes

> I was looking for recipes from when I was in grade school. (late 70s early
> 80s) Examples would be pizza, spaghetti, there was a white sheet cake with
> this fine icing.  sooo good.
> Any help would be appreciated
> sheila

Hi Sheila,

See here for the school cafeteria recipes that I have:
School Cafeteria Recipes



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