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A Particular Barley Beef Soup

----- Original Message ----- 
From: maida 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 5:17 AM
Subject: Recipe for "barley beef soup" from long ago!

Dear Phaed....

Many years ago, a coffee shop in downtown Los Angeles on 5th Street, served this 
soup every other Saturday in the late 1950's to the 1960's...I LIVED for it!

It was a creamy soup, mostly of barley, extremely small pieces of beef, and very 
little pieces of carrots in it...not much else that I could discern.  If I was the 
lucky one, I would be the recipient of one of the bay leaves used to flavor it! 
It was the best soup I ever had!

The restaurant (coffee shop) was one of a chain of a very few, called "Pig 'N' Whistle".

If you could find this, it would end my life-long quest! Thank you in advance for your effort,

Sincerely, Maida 

Hello Maida,

Well, I had no success at all in finding a barley beef soup recipe from "The Pig 'N' Whistle". There are several restaurant/ pubs by that name, possibly a chain, in cities around the country, including NYC and LA (at 6714 Hollywood Blvd). I cannot find a recipe for barley beef soup from any restaurant by that name, and no one appears to have created a copycat.

Getting past that, there are dozens of recipes for beef barley soup or barley beef soup. It's a classic dish. I'm not sure what you mean by "creamy" - do you mean with milk or cream added? If so, that's not a typical beef barley soup. However, many beef barley soup recipes have cabbage, peas, potatoes, beans, etc added.

Below are some typical beef barley soup recipes.


Classic  Beef  &  Barley  Soup

2/3 c. pearl barley
1 1/2 lbs. ground beef
1 med. onion, chopped fine
4 carrots, minced
3 ribs celery, diced
3 (10 1/2 oz.) cans beef consomme
2 c. water
1 (10 1/2 oz.) can tomato soup
1 bay leaf
1/4 c. parsley, minced

Brown ground beef and onion in Dutch oven or heavy kettle until meat is no longer pink. 
Add remaining ingredients, cover and cook, simmering 1 1/2 to 2 hours.  
Beef  Barley  Soup

1/4 tsp. thyme
1 beef soup bone
1 lb. lean beef stew meat, cut in sm. pieces
1 to 2 tbsp. cooking oil
1 med. onion, chopped
1 c. carrots, chopped
1 c. celery, chopped (include some leaves)
1/4 tsp. marjoram
1 (1 lb.) can tomatoes
2 tbsp. dried parsley flakes
1 tbsp. salt
1 bay leaf
3 peppercorns
3/4 c. pearl barley

Brown beef (cut up in small pieces) in oil in a large kettle or Dutch oven.  Add water, 
soup bone, and herbs and spices and bring to a boil. Simmer 1 1/2 to 2 hours.  Remove bone, 
skim fat from top of soup.  Add vegetables, cook about 30 minutes.  Add barley.  Cook about 
10 more minutes until barley is done and vegetables are tender.  Makes 6 to 8 servings.
Beef  Barley  Soup

2 1/2 lbs. round steak, cut in chunks
2 tbsp. butter or margarine
1/2 c. barley
2 med. onions, sliced
2 tbsp. parsley, chopped
2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
1 bay leaf
1 1/2 c. chopped celery
1 1/2 c. sliced carrots
1/4 tsp. thyme leaves

About 2 1/2 hours before serving: In large pot over medium heat, brown beef in butter; 
add 6 cups hot water, barley, 1 sliced onion, parsley, salt, pepper and bay leaf.  Heat 
to boiling; reduce heat to low, simmer, covered about 1 1/2 hours.  Stir in remaining 
sliced onion and rest of ingredients and cook 30 minutes longer, or until beef is fork 
tender.  Discard bay leaf. makes about 11 cups or 8 servings.

A Particular Date Nut Loaf

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Patricia 
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:17 AM
Subject: "Date nut Loaf"

You chop up dates, marshmallows, nuts, etc. & mix it all together by hand-a very stiff 
mixture.  Then you crush a box of graham crackers and put this all over the loaf and 
then you put it back into the graham cracker box lined w/foil. This hails from Garner, 
NC from my great Aunt Lavona, which no one has anymore.  Thank you Patricia

Hi Patricia,

Sorry, no luck. There are lots of date nut loaf recipes, but I cannot find one that calls for cooking the loaf in a foil-lined graham cracker box. It sounds like a recipe that may have been on the back of the graham cracker box.



I've been a dedicated reader of your website for quite some time, and enjoy the challenge of tracking down recipes you 
have been unable to identify. I've found a few, but I'll begin with just this one. In response to the following request, 
I found a number of very similar "Icebox Fruitcake," and "No-Bake Fruitcake," recipes, though some do not stipulate dates 
or lined graham cracker boxes. I've included a few here, but many more can be found with a quick google. 

Thank you for your entertaining web space, and do expect to hear from me again!



From: Patricia 
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:17 AM
Subject: "Date nut Loaf"

You chop up dates, marshmallows, nuts, etc. & mix it all together by hand-a very stiff 
mixture.  Then you crush a box of graham crackers and put this all over the loaf and 
then you put it back into the graham cracker box lined w/foil. This hails from Garner, 
NC from my great Aunt Lavona, which no one has anymore.  Thank you Patricia
No-Bake Christmas Fruitcake

This is a fantastic activity for the kids. No cooking, just lots of measuring and mixing.


1 lb Graham crackers rolled fine
1/2 ts Salt
1/2 ts Ground cloves
1/2 ts Allspice
1 1/2 c Chopped dates
1 c Mixed candied fruit
1/2 c Candied cherries
2 c Whipping cream (unwhipped)
1 ts Cinnamon
1/2 ts Nutmeg
2 c Chopped nuts
1 c Glazed pineapple, chopped
1/2 c White raisins
2 c Miniature marshmallows


Put everything but cream and graham crackers in a large mixing bowl. Stir together well. Whip the cream. 
Add fruit mixture to the whipped cream. Add the crumbs, gradually, mixing with hands.
Put in a graham cracker box lined with foil if you don't feel up to messing up another pan.
Chill in refrigerator. 
Ingrients & Directions

1 lb Graham crackers
1 lb Dates
1 pk Marshmallows
1 c Nutmeats
1 Jar maraschino cherries
1 c Carnation milk; whipped

Roll crackers to crumble and cut marshmallows in while stirring to coat.
Add cherries, nuts and dates. Then add whipped milk. If too thick or too
dry, add cherry juice. Pack in the cracker box with waxed paper. Let set 1
week in the refrigerator before eating.
Ingrients & Directions

1 Box (1-pound) graham
-crackers, Save box
1 Jar (16-oz) maraschino
-Cherries and juice
1 Box (15-oz) raisins
1 lb Chopped nuts
1 lb Marshmallows
1/2 lb (2 sticks) melted Butter
1 ts Ground nutmeg

Crumb crackers in processor. Halve cherries. Blend in very large bowl
crumbs, raisins, nuts, cherries (and juice), and nutmeg. Set aside. In a
large saucepan over low heat, melt marshmallows and butter. Add to crumb
mixture and blend well with hands. Wash hands. Line cracker box with foil.
Pack mixture into box and chill several hours until firm. To vary: use
green and red cherries and/or a small amount of candied fruit.

1 (13 oz.) can evaporated milk
30 marshmallows
1 lb. graham crackers
1/2 lb. candied red cherries
1/2 lb. candied green cherries
1 lb. candied pineapple
1/2 lb. light raisins
1/2 lb. dark raisins
2 c. pecans

Put marshmallows and milk in top of double boiler or over low heat and let melt while you mix the other ingredients. 
Roll graham crackers with rolling pin and put in a large boiling or mixing bowl. Cut cherries in half and pineapple 
into pieces. Add cherries, pineapple, raisins and pecans to crumbs.
Mix well and then add marshmallows and milk mixture. Mix real well and pack in graham cracker box that has been lined 
with waxed paper. You can save a few cherries and pecans and decorate the top of cake. Store in the refrigerator.
Ice Box Fruit Cake  

1 lb. graham crackers
1 lb. mini marshmallows
1 lb. chopped pecans
1 lb. chopped walnuts
1/2 lb. red candied cherries
1/2 lb. green candied cherries
1/4 lb. green or yellow candied pineapple
1 sm. container cream
1 pkg. frozen coconut
1 c. chopped dates
1 tbsp. vanilla

Crumble 2 1/2 packages graham crackers. Add all fruits and nuts. Mix well. Melt marshmallows with cream over low heat. 
Add vanilla. Pour over cracker mixture and mix well. Pack in buttered pans "floured" with remaining cracker crumbs. 
Decorate top. Refrigerate at least 24 hours

Peel Dills

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Karen 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: Peel Dills

I'm looking for a recipe from my childhood.  We called them "Peel Dills"


Hot Dog Bun
Hot Dog
Cheese [American]
Pickle Relish

 Here's how I remember preparing them.

Bun-Dog-Cheese and toppings
Wrap in foil.


Hi Karen, Sorry, I can't find anything that quite fits your description. I'll put this on the site so that perhaps a reader can help.

You know, Karen, You have all the ingredients listed. I don't see why you'd need more than a cooking time and temperature.

Try the below recipe, based on another one that was similar.


Frankfurter Cheese Bunwiches

8 split frankfurter rolls 
8 frankfurters (about 1 pound) 

How to make Frankfurter Cheese Bunwiches:
Spread rolls with mustard; roll each frankfurter in a slice of cheese;place a frankfurter 
in each roll, then spoon relish on top.
Wrap each sandwich in a square of foil; seal tightly.
Place on cookie sheet.
Bake in very hot oven (450F) for 15 minutes, or until hot.
Fold foil back; serve sandwiches in wrappers. 

Ship Shape Hamburgers

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cliff 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: Ship Shape Hamburger


I used to order Ship's restaurant's "ship shape" hamburger in Westwood, 
Los Angeles in the 70's. It has since gone out of business. Could you find 
out how to recreate this Burger?



Hello Cliff,

Sorry, not much luck. The only thing that I can find about it is that it was freshly ground Angus on sourdough bread, although that may have been the patty melt rather than the burger.


Stickney's Chicken Noodle Soup

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lisa 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Chicken Noodle Soup

To Whom It May Concern:

There is a mall called Valley Fair in San Jose, California.  A long time ago 
it was an outdoor mall and there was a restaurant called Stickney's.  They had 
a really good chicken noodle soup and I am looking for that recipe.

Thank you,


Hi Lisa,

Stickney's is/was a chain of restaurants in California. I cannot find any copycat recipes for their chicken noodle soup. Sorry.


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