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Dutch Black Chocolate

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri"
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:39 AM
Subject: Katzing's Dutch Black Chocolates

> Hello,
> I'm not sure anyone can help with this, but here it goes.  Back when I was 
> a kid (circa 1974 - 75), I lived in Peoria, IL. There was a candy store called
> Katzing's Dutch Black Chocolates.  They had candy bars and stuff, but they 
> also dipped their own confections.  And their dark chocolate was BLACK.  It was
> delicious!  Now I'm old and live far away, I really want some!  Do they 
> even exist anymore?   I have done some candy making of my own, so if anyone 
> knows how to make the chocolate so dark and yet so smooth, I would be willing to 
> take a shot at it myself.  Thank you for any light you can shed on this.
> Sherri

Hi Sherri,

The making of chocolate is a complex process that you can't do in your kitchen. You have to at least begin with cocoa butter and chocolate liquor. On top of that, Dutch chocolate is specially processed with chemical alkali. A "black chocolate" would contain more cocoa solids and less chocolate liquor. There's no way to make it out of ordinary store-bought dark chocolate or cocoa powder, or anything the average homemaker can obtain.

Sorry, even if a recipe was available, this is something you just can't do at home.

Katzing's Candy on Prospect in Peoria is gone, as far as I can tell. I found nothing more than a couple of reminisces.

While you can't make Dutch "Black" Chocolate at home, you may be able to buy it. It probably would be sold as "Dutch extra-dark chocolate", rather than as "Dutch black chocolate". See these sites:

13-EE620 - Cote d'Or Mini Bar Extra Dark 10g=0.3oz Mini, one bite Chocolate bar Extra Dark

Rademaker Chocolate Extra Dark Sticks 1

Rademaker Chocolate Extra Dark Sticks 2


Jewel Fruit Cake from Fannie Farmer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Margaret 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: jewel fruit cake

This is a light cake with fruit layered by color to give a stained glass effect. 
it was in a Fannie Farmer Cookbook, I think from 1935 or so.  The same cookbook 
has a recipe for "nut pie" to be made with either pecans or walnuts, and if you 
double the amount of pecans, it makes a memorable pie, not too sweet.  One year 
my gift pie list was 37 pies, by request of the recipients.

I have bought several of that cookbook, sometimes finding the pie recipe (which my 
family has recorded on each inside flap of every cook book in my home) but never 
found the fruit cake recipe.

Good luck with the hunt, looking forward to hearing from you, and Thank You!

Margaret in Atlanta

Hello Margaret,

Sorry, none of the editions of The Fannie Farmer Cookbook that I have access to has a recipe for Jewel Fruit Cake. While there are recipes for "Jewel Fruit Cake" on the Internet, none of them mentions Fannie Farmer. Sorry.


Macy's Coconut Cake

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vivian" 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: Coconut Cake with no icing and raspberry base


My name is Vivian and I have tried in vain to find a recipe of a cake I used 
to buy at Macy's many years ago.  I was able to get it as recently as 10-12 
years ago.

It is a plain, heavy pound type cake with coconut integrated throughout the 
cake, i.e. part of the batter itself, not on it, but in it.  At the base is 
a very thin layer of raspberry jam.  It is seems to have quite a bit of oil, 
butter or both..  It was sold by the pound with your piece sliced off a 
large sheet of cake.  It was too divine for words....probably terrible for 
you, but oh so good.

I am an excellent baker, but would be fine with simply being able to find 
the distributor of this cake and buying it.

I would be very grateful for your efforts to find it.


Hi Vivian,

Sorry, I had no success locating this recipe or a distributor.


Hershey's Cocoa Fudge

----- Original Message ----- 
From: stephanie 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:17 PM
Subject: the hershey chocolate tin recipe

Do you know what year this recipe was printed on the tin?


Hershey's Cocoa Fudge

Ingredients :
4 tbsp. butter
1 c. milk
3 c. sugar
pinch salt
1/2 c. Hershey's cocoa
1/4 tsp. cream of tartar
1 tsp. vanilla

Preparation :
Heat milk sugar, salt, cocoa, and cream of
tartar heat to boiling. Stir with a wooden
spoon until mixture boils. Lower heat;
cook to a soft ball stage.
Remove from heat.
Add butter. Do not mix. Let stand until
lukewarm. Add vanilla. Stir until candy is
creamy. Pour into 8 inch square pan. Cut while
still warm. Makes about 1 1/2 pounds.

Hi Stephanie,

Well, I contacted Hershey's and I got a very nice reply from them. Actually, I got not only a reply, but photocopies of all the actual different Hershey's Cocoa can labels from 1936 to 1992.

The recipe you sent does not appear on any of them. There is no fudge recipe with cream of tartar on any of them.

You recipe may have appeared in a magazine ad for Hershey's Cocoa or a handout recipe pamphlet from Hershey's, but it does not appear to have ever been on the Hershey's Cocoa can at all.


Meta Givens Pancakes

----- Original Message ----- 
From: rita 
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Pancake recipe

Now if you could find the pancake recipe using evaporated milk that 
would be great.  Sorry I don't recall the exact title but I think it 
was in the same Meta Givens edition.

Thanks again,

Hi Rita,

Sorry, no luck with this one. We don't have the Meta Givens cookbook, and I cannot locate a recipe for "Meta Givens' pancakes". There are some pancake recipes that call for evaporated milk, but none that I found made any mention of Meta Givens.


Deborah sent the recipe:

Hi Uncle Phaedrus,
I love your site. You helped me with instructions for a pan I bought once, 
and am so glad to be able to help someone else out with a recipe.
I have a few Meta Givens cookbooks, given to me by my mother-in-law. 
The first one I checked has the following recipe:
Evaporated Milk Griddle Cakes
1 cup all purpose flour
1 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 teaspoons sugar
1/4 cup shortening
1/4 cup boiling water
1 egg, beaten
1/4 cup evaporated milk
Sift flour, measure, and resift twice with baking powder, salt and sugar. 
Melt shortening in the boiling water and stir into the beaten egg; add milk, 
stir and add all at once to the flour mixture, stirring briskly until well mixed. 
Bake on a moderately hot, slightly greased griddle.
Makes about 20 cakes, 3 inches in diameter.
Thanks for all your great work!
here u go!  my mom is a big fan of these....
Mix together the following:

1 cup flour
1 egg
1 cup milk
1/4 cup oil
2 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 tablespoons sugar
Optional:  teaspoon almond and/or butter extract
Pour onto griddle and turn when bubbly on top.
Makes about 8 medium sized pancakes.


Carole, the recipe Rita wants has evaporated milk. The one you sent doesn't. I don't think it's the correct recipe, even if it is from Meta Givens' cookbook.


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