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Bayou Banquet/DH Holmes French Silk Pie

Subject: Re: Bayou Banquet recipe
From: Phaedrus 
Date: 3/18/2018 12:08 PM
To: Lois 

On 3/17/2018 1:21 PM, Lois wrote:

 I have been trying to find the recipe for a Chocolate French silk Pie. It was a 9 in pie, 
crust was made with chou pastry,and it was filled with a dark chocolate filling.The top of 
the pie was decorated with tiny profiteroles filled with the chocolate filling.  Pie crust 
looked like a regular pie.  I would love to have the complete recipe--a fave of mine as a 
child,--but the most important thing I want to know is how the chou paste pie shell was 
baked I just heard about this book, Hope I get lucky.

Hello Lois,

DH Holmes  published a cookbook called "Bayou Banquet -Recipes from a potpourri of cultures".  That cookbook is very rare, and I have never been able to find a copy for sale. However, I have a friend who has a copy. I wrote to him about your "French Silk Pie" recipe, and he tells me that there is no "French Silk Pie" recipe in that cookbook. You should be aware that the recipes in that cookbook are not the recipes that were used to make the dishes in DH Holmes' "Potpourri Restaurant." It is simply a cookbook of popular Louisiana recipes.

I searched the web, but I found no mention of the dish except for another request that you made here:  Tiger Droppings

My friend with the cookbook says the only chocolate pie recipe of any sort that is in "Bayou Banquet" is the one below, and it does not match your description.

I will post this for reader input.


Chocolate Pie recipe from "Bayou Banquet."

12 oz. semi-sweet chocolate pieces
1/4 cup milk
1/4 cup sugar
Pinch of salt
4 eggs. Separated
1 tsp vanilla
9 inch baked pie shell
1 cup whipping cream
Combine chocolate, milk sugar and salt in top of double bo8iler. Heat until blended and smooth. 
Cool slightly 5-10 minutes. 
Add egg yolks, one at a time beating well after each addition. Blend in vanilla. Bat egg whites 
until stiff. Fold into
chocolate mixture. Pour into baked pie shell and refrigerate at least 3 hours. Before serving 
whip cream and spread on top of pie.

- James

Recipes Inside Flour Bags

Subject: Re: Recipes in Flour Bags
From: Phaedrus 
Date: 3/11/2018 11:50 AM
To: Ruth 

On 3/11/2018 12:15 AM, Ruth wrote:

Hi Uncle Phaedrus--

I need help finding a cookbook whose name I can't remember (Easy, right?). When I was a kid 
in the late 50's or early to mid 60's my mom would buy bags of flour at Christmas that had 
little cookie recipe booklets in them. At least, I think that's what I remember, lol. I have 
tried and tried to to find copies of these, but can't remember the brand of flour they came 
in and neither can mom. Can you help?  

Hi Ruth,

Very difficult. The only mention that I can find of recipes being put in flour bags is from the Clementine Paddleford Papers collection at the Kansas State University Library:
"Standard Milling Company, One Park Avenue, New York City, New York"
"Almond recipes, n.d."
"Full-Color Holiday Cookie Recipes In Flour Bags," n.d.

There were no further details online, and this doesn't tell the actual name of the flour, just that it was one of Standard Milling Company's brands. Standard Milling Company sold flour under several different brand names, including Ceresota and Hecker's and Red Ball. There is a list of their brands here:

There may be other brand names not on that list, as well.

Standard Milling Company is or was a subsidiary of the Ulhman Company. It was also known as Southwestern Milling Company at one time or in some areas.

The contact for the Ulhman company is given as:
Paul Uhlmann Iii
1009 Central
Kansas City, Missouri, 64105
United States

Hecker and Ceresota flour are still being sold. Website:
They have a Facebook page here:
You might post a question on that page asking about recipe booklets in flour bags.

There is another mention of a recipe pamphlet from Standard Milling Company in a University of Iowa collection here:
"Here Comes Christmas Through the Oven Door."
"Kansas City, Missouri."
"Standard Milling Company."
"[n.d.] 1pp. : 19cm."

"Here Comes Christmas Through The Oven Door" is also in a Michigan State University Collection here:
There is a photo there. The article says it may have been a product insert in Ceresota flour bags. I could not find this pamphlet for sale on Ebay or anywhere else, although there are other Ceresota pamphlets on Ebay.

There are several recipe booklets from flour companies for sale on Ebay, but none mentions being placed inside the flour bag. See here for photos and ads:

In the 1950s, Robin Hood flour placed strips of paper in the neck of their flour bags with recipes printed on them, but not a pamphlet inside the bag.

If you or your Mom can recall, from any of these names or photos, which brand of flour it was, then that will give a new starting point. If that doesn't happen, then you might call or visit the Kansas State University Library and view that item in the Clementine Paddleford Papers collection. They might povide you with photocopies of that booklet. Same with the pamphlet at the University of Iowa. You might try to contact Paul Uhlmann for information.

I'll post this for reader input. One of my readers might have some input.


Guess I'm doomed to feel like a crazy person, none of those looked like what I remember. And neither of 
us can remember what brand of flour it was that it came from. Thanks for your help anyway and maybe one 
of your readers will be able to let me know what it was from.

I contacted Hecker and Ceresota flour and was told that they never put recipes inside their flour bags.

 On 4/19/2018 1:07 AM, Ruth wrote:

 Dear Uncle, I recently wrote to you to see if you could help me locate a link or something to a recipe 
 booklet I remembered from childhood. I was beginning to think all hope was lost, or I was loony and 
 misremembering, either one. Recently I actually stumbled across a copy of it and several more on Scribd. 
 (It's a great site but occasionally takes some serious digging.) I'm sending you a PDF of it and several 
 more I discovered. It was in Gold Medal flour and Betty Crocker did the recipes. Whew! Nice to know I'm 
 reasonably sane, and many, many thanks for your help.


 PS: Can't send the PDF because gmail is being pissy. Can I send you an ODT copy?

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Phaedrus wrote:

Hi Ruth,

I don't have "Open Office" installed on my computer, so I don't have any way to open an "ODT" graphic. Please just go to the page again and copy the "url" from your browser and send that to me. It's in the blanks space in the upper part of your browser page and it looks something like this:

Scribd Document

That way, I can go to the page myself and look at it.


Re: Flour bag recipe book
From: Ruth 
Date: 4/19/2018 11:01 PM
To: Phaedrus  -

Okay, hopefully you can see these. Scribd is one of those you gotta join things, but they do have a 
free trial period.

Betty Crocker's Bake Up a Story

For Variety Cook with Soup

Fancy Cookies and Pastries

Gift Box Butter Cookies

Let me know if this works for you. I have actually found them for sale on ebay once I knew the name 
I was searching for.


Waterville Valley Hot Dog Chili

Subject: Waterville Valley Hot Dog Chili
From: Peter 
Date: 3/17/2018 1:38 PM

   After moving to New Hampshire in the summer of 2013, my family was looking for something 
local to attend in the fall. We ventured to the Waterville Valley Annual Chili Festival. 
After tasting the various entries, we voted on a winner. The theme that year was 
“non-traditional ingredients”. This chili recipe I am including did not win the grand prize, 
but it was awesome! We make it for our backyard BBQ’s and summer pool parties. Here it is as 
shared directly from the chef.



     Smoked Hot Dogs (North Country Smokehouse) 3 lbs.
     Bacon (Diced Raw) 2 cups
     White Onions (Diced) 2 each
     Garlic (minced) ½ cup 
     Canned diced tomatoes  2 cans
     Chili sauce 1 can
     Kidney beans 2 cans
     Whole Grain Mustard/Relish/Ketchup 1 cup each
     Chili powder ½ cup 

 -Cook bacon in stock pot till brown, add onions and garlic cook thru. 

 -Add all canned items (tomatoes, chili sauce, and beans) Let simmer for about 30 mins.

 -Time to fold in all remaining ingredients, if you want more (heat) add in more chili powder 
   or diced Jalapeños.

 Garnish with any type of chip!

I don’t always have the North Country smoked hot dogs, so I substitute the “little smokies” 
cocktail wieners. I just cut them in half. Since I do like spice, I do add a few canned 
jalapeños. For the canned chili sauce, I substitute an 8 ounce bottle of Old Elpaso taco 
sauce. I use French’s classic yellow for the mustard.  Rinse my beans as well. Enjoy!

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