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D H Holmes Cheesecake

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Fr. Bill 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:39 PM
Subject: cheesecake

Howdy!

In the Lafayette Louisiana mall there used to be a D.H. Holmes department store. 
They had a small bar and restaurant in the corner of the second floor. They made 
the most wonderful cheesecake; it was cut in squares and I had strawberries on it, 
the cheesecake portion was of a heavy type and the crust is what made it great. 
It had chunks in it, and I could never make out if they were of graham crackers 
or maybe vanilla wafers. The store had closed and I have been searching for a 
recipe that matches it. I have done my best looking on the web as well, but no 
luck; so I am turning to the master. Please help - God Bless - Fr. Bill 

Hello Fr. Bill,

Well, I had no success at all finding the recipe. D. H. Holmes was bought out by Dillard's Department Stores. In New Orleans, at one location, they had a restaurant called "Potpourri Restaurant"; in other locations they had more like lunch counters or cafeterias. I could not find a cheesecake recipe connected with any of these names.

However, I did find that they issued a cookbook in 1984. The book is called "Bayou Banquet: Recipes from a Potpourri of Cultures" and was published by the store itself. The problem is that it's very rare. I could not find a copy of it for sale anywhere on the web. Several sites have it listed, but all say "no longer available". I don't know for sure that the cheesecake recipe is in it.

There is a blog for New Orleans recipes. You might try posting a request there asking that someone who has the book please check it for the cheesecake recipe. The chicken salad recipe is posted on the blog here:

Blog.NOLA.Com

Phaed

James sent the recipe:

D.H. Holmes Rich Cheesecake

From the cookbook Bayou Banquest published in 1984 by the D.H. Holmes Department store in New Orelans

1 cup graham cracker crumbs
3 tbs sugar
3 tbs melted butter
 cup chopped pecans
2 well-beaten eggs
 lb cream cheese, room temperature
 cup sugar
1 tsp lemon juice
 tsp vanilla
 tsp salt
Cinnamon
 cup sour cream
2 tsp sugar
 tsp vanilla
1/8 tsp salt

1.Preheat oven to 375 degrees
2.Combine crumbs, sugar, butter and pecans and press into the bottom of a 
  9 inch springform pan. Bake for 8-10 minutes. Cool.
3.Combine eggs, cream cheese, cup sugar, lemon juice  tsp vanilla and  tsp salt. 
  Blend well and pour into shell. Bake 20 minutes.
4.Remove from oven and dust the top lightly with cinnamon. Let cool to room temperature. 
  Increase oven temperature to 425 degrees.
5.Combine remaining ingredients and pour over the cake. Bake 5 minutes. Cool, 
then refrigerate 6 to 10 hours, preferably overnight before serving. Serves 10-12.

Bernice Barbecue Sauce

----- Original Message ----- 
From: jana 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:05 AM
Subject: bbq sauce

I am looking for a bbq sauce called bernice, i think that is the proper spelling.
A friend of mine used a lot of this sauce at his bbq store 25 years ago. He told me 
yesterday that it was distributed by a company called manhatten coffee co.

Hi Jana,

I can't find any mention of a "Bernice BBQ Sauce" (BBQ, Bar-B-Q, Barbeque, Barbecue). The only mention that I can find of a barbecue sauce that was distributed by Manhattan Coffee Company is in this 2009 post on the BBQ Forum:
The BBQ Forum
That person doesn't appear to have had any success locating it.

There is a chain of restaurants called "The Manhattan Coffee Company", so that confuses the issue a bit. I found three addresses in Missouri for "Manhattan Coffee Company", all with the same phone number. I also found a statement of a message board that all of Manhattan Coffee Company's delivery services had been taken over by Ronnoco Coffee Company. You might try phoning that Manhattan Coffee Company number at (314) 731-2500. If this turns out to be a different company altogether, then you might try calling the Ronnoco Coffee Company at 314-371-5050 or 1-800-HAV-A-CUP. Perhaps someone at one of those places can tell you something about the sauce.

My thinking is that the "Manhattan Coffee Company" coffee distributor who also sold that BBQ sauce probably was bought out a few years ago and the sauce was dropped by the new owners. Possibly the distribution part of the company was sold to Ronnoco and the rights to the name were sold to "Sara Lee Coffee, Tea Superior & Manhattan Coffee Company". I doubt whether either company still sells the BBQ sauce. If you call them, please let me know what they say.

Phaed

Sara Lee Coffee, Tea Superior & Manhattan Coffee Company
Lou Wolf & Russ Mahood
4333 Green Ash Drive
Earth City, MO 63045
314-731-2500

Manhattan Coffee Company
4908 North Lindbergh Boulevard  
St. Louis, MO 63044
Phone: 314-731-2500

Sara Lee Coffee, Tea Superior & Manhattan Coffee Company
Lou Wolf & Russ Mahood
12832 Pennridge Drive
Bridgeton, MO 63044-1237
314-731-2500

"the Manhattan Coffee Company was replaced by the Ronnoco Coffee Company"

Ronnoco Coffee Company
Charles Dubuque
4241 Sarpy Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63110
314-371-5050
1-800-HAV-A-CUP
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From: "Bill" 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Subject: Bernice's BBQ Sauce
Date: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:27 AM

The Naples, FL Bernice's BBQ has been closed for more than 20 years.
However, the son of the Pit Master has his own BBQ resturant in Crystal
River, FL called Fat Boy's BBQ.  He may have the orignal receipe.

Better on the Dummy

---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim " 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:54 AM
Subject: not a recipe question - but you have helped me before!

> Hello Uncle-
>
> My mother and her father used to say, "It look better on the dummy than 
> it do on me". They loved that line and mentioned it often  laughing.  Now 
> that they are both gone I asked my aunt who said she  had no idea where 
> they heard it- perhaps an old movie line an old  radio program? Can you 
> find this out for me? I have Googled but no  mention of the original line- 
> however many mentions of people using   that expression. It had to have 
> come from some where? But where?
>
> Thank you-
>
> Kim
> Idaho
>
> p.s. I wish you had a published cookbook- I just love browsing around  and 
> finding great recipes!
>

Hi Kim,

I looked everywhere that I can think of, but I didn't find much about it. However, I did find a clue....
On a blog, someone posted that it was from an old song:

Roz-Counterpane.blogspot.com

"When I was a kid, umpteen years ago, there was a song on the radio, 'It looks better on the dummy than it does on me.' It was about a lady who saw a hat on the dummy in the store window, and when she got it home, it was not becoming on.... "

I searched for any song with "better on the dummy" in the lyrics, but came up empty. Perhaps it was so obscure that no one has posted the lyrics on the Internet.

I'll put this on the site. maybe a reader will remember it.

Phaed


Suzy Q's

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Russell 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:36 PM
Subject: Recipe Request

Dear Uncle 

What a great website and function you provide. I stumbled upon it looking 
for Naughty Child pie. Tell me, has anyone requested the original recipe 
for Hostess Suzy Q's. Man I loved those things when I was a kid in the 70's. 
What they sell today is so far different. Can you help?

Regards

Russell

Hello Russell,

I can't find anything on the Internet that makes a distinction between "original" Suzy Q's and the current ones, except for a post from "Czarmom39", found below this recipe for a "Suzy Q" Cake": Suzy Q Cake

There is a copycat recipe for Suzy Q's here: Homemade Suzy Q's

However, it doesn't say whether the result is like the original or current version. If a recipe doesn't say specifically whether the result is like the original or current version, then there is no way for me to know.

There's no way that I know of to get the actual Hostess commercial recipe, and even if you did, it would probably be unusable because it would use pre-mixed, commercial ingredients and would be a large industrial recipe to make batches of hundreds of them at a time.

I find no mention of any copycat recipes for the original Suzy Q's. Perhaps the recipe changed before the birth of the Internet and the ensuing popularity of copycat recipes.

Russell, if you are the creative type, you can probably approximate them by starting with the above recipes and tweaking the filling.

Let me know how it turns out if you make the attempt.

Phaed


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